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i think john boehner is in a nightmare situation. it could not be a cleaner case for republicans defending only the tax cuts for the top 2%. this is very clear. mitt romney tried to parse it and say, well, maybe we'll get revenue from capping deductions. maybe we'll go after the mortgage interest or some other deductions. that was litigated. they lost. it's simple and clear to everyone that 98% of the tax cuts could go through tomorrow, today, any time if boehner got out of the way. but he still has the rejectionists in the lame duck caucus, and i think he's a little afraid the right flank might come at that speakership he has to reup for on january. he has to talk the tea party, talk even though he knows it's a losing proposition. >> i know you're a progressive, and that's why i love you. but let's talk politics. why does a political party that hopes to get 51% of the country in the next presidential election put all its stock in 2%? >> well, you're dealing with reality. the reality -- >> yeah. >> the tea party caucus of the house w
i think john boehner is in a nightmare situation. it could not be a cleaner case for republicans defending only the tax cuts for the top 2%. this is very clear. mitt romney tried to parse it and say, well, maybe we'll get revenue from capping deductions. maybe we'll go after the mortgage interest or some other deductions. that was litigated. they lost. it's simple and clear to everyone that 98% of the tax cuts could go through tomorrow, today, any time if boehner got out of the way. but he...
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speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive capitulation. to be fair, the details of the republican proposal are extraordinarily vague to the extent it can be interpreted from the hazy details that it is utterly unacceptable. president obama said today there is a time and a place to discuss reforming the tax code. but that time is not now. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. >> joining me here in washington are congressman tim walls, democrat from minnesota, and karen finney, the former dnc di
speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive capitulation. to be fair, the details of the republican proposal are extraordinarily vague to the extent it can be interpreted from the hazy details that it is utterly unacceptable. president obama said today there is a time and a place to discuss reforming the tax code. but that time is not...
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boehner. >> let's not kid ourselves. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a great risk. and then the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they sum one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for not even $4 billion in cuts, and they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean it was not a serious proposal. and so right now we're almost nowhere. >> let me start with -- let me start with joe jan on this thing because you and i often agree. this whole thing here, i just think boehner has never accepted the fact that the rates have to go up at the top. i mean they're talking about deductions and all this finesse, they lost this debate. if there was any issue that came out, the president was dead right. he mads he statement clear. the public wants to have some tax fairness. they don't want the top 2% to hold this thing up. boehner doesn't wan
boehner. >> let's not kid ourselves. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a great risk. and then the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they sum one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for not even $4 billion in cuts, and they want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean it was not a serious...
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john boehner canceled the vote. then he put out a statement saying it's now up to democrats to figure it out. and then the house went into recess and house republicans started going home for christmas. >> mr. chairman, you're close to the speaker. you serve with him on the education committee. does this feel like defeat tonight, when he could not cajole enough votes out of his caucus? >> well, yeah. that's exactly what it is. and he understood it, and he said have a merry christmas, we'll see you after christmas. >> we'll see you after christmas. yes, this was a defeat. this woos nas not how it was sud to go, but that is what happened in just the past hour. joining us is luke russert, nbc news congressional correspondent. luke, thanks for being here on short notice. appreciate your time. >> what a story, rachel. happy to be here. i've never seen anything like this in my 3 1/2 year on capitol hill. very rare moment. and talking to people whief been here for a while, this doesn't happen very much. >> what are your sou
john boehner canceled the vote. then he put out a statement saying it's now up to democrats to figure it out. and then the house went into recess and house republicans started going home for christmas. >> mr. chairman, you're close to the speaker. you serve with him on the education committee. does this feel like defeat tonight, when he could not cajole enough votes out of his caucus? >> well, yeah. that's exactly what it is. and he understood it, and he said have a merry christmas,...
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boehner to stop protecting the rich. joy reid is managing editor of the grio, and david corn is washington bureau chief for mother jones and the author of the ebook "47 percent." today the president took his pitch to a factory in the philadelphia suburbs, and he made clear the rich must pay their fair share. obama's job number one, a tax cut for the 98%. the rest of the people. let's listen to him. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. all right? that doesn't make sense. the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. that's already passed the senate. your members of congress, like allyson and chaka, other democrats in the house, they're ready to go, they're ready to vote on that same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans on board, we can pass the bill in the house, it will
boehner to stop protecting the rich. joy reid is managing editor of the grio, and david corn is washington bureau chief for mother jones and the author of the ebook "47 percent." today the president took his pitch to a factory in the philadelphia suburbs, and he made clear the rich must pay their fair share. obama's job number one, a tax cut for the 98%. the rest of the people. let's listen to him. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you for just a...
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i have to tell you, boehner, this is something that's not bringing tears to his eyes. it's probably put a spring in the step of romney. you were in the news today. i don't know how many in the last several hours you made. bill clinton made the news, saying don't go after bain capital, the massachusetts experience of romney. in other words, defend your own record, build on your own record. don't go negative. are you sticking with that? is the former president -- let's hear it. let's hear bill clinton speak for himself. he was out there with harvey weinstein the other night. let's watch him. >> i don't think that we ought to get into the position where we say this is bad work. this is good work. no question in terms of getting up to go to the office, and you know basically performing the essential functions of the office, a man a who's been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold. >> there you go. mr. clinton, i don't know what he is doing, and governor, you know him well, and he is saying don't go down the negative road, go the po
i have to tell you, boehner, this is something that's not bringing tears to his eyes. it's probably put a spring in the step of romney. you were in the news today. i don't know how many in the last several hours you made. bill clinton made the news, saying don't go after bain capital, the massachusetts experience of romney. in other words, defend your own record, build on your own record. don't go negative. are you sticking with that? is the former president -- let's hear it. let's hear bill...
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i think boehner understands that. it's an issue if he can convince his conference. >> if the deal is middle class people get their tax cut continued, 2% of people don't get it. is that a good deal for the president or is that a tricky deal by the republicans? >> no -- >> puts off the fight over spending. >> he decouples tax rates, which is what he's tried -- frankly, democrats have been trying to do this for eight years. this is an eight-year-long campaign to decouple the tax rates for the rich. so yes, i talked to a high-level aide today that said -- i said, if you don't get the big deal -- because right now we're basically that small deal, which would not be a small thing, doing that, but you might not get the large grand bargain that you hope for -- >> why wouldn't the republicans take cuts in entitlements, take cuts in general government spending as part of a deal. >> they don't think -- the president hasn't outlined the cuts in entitlements. this is where the political gamesmanship goes on their side. they sit th
i think boehner understands that. it's an issue if he can convince his conference. >> if the deal is middle class people get their tax cut continued, 2% of people don't get it. is that a good deal for the president or is that a tricky deal by the republicans? >> no -- >> puts off the fight over spending. >> he decouples tax rates, which is what he's tried -- frankly, democrats have been trying to do this for eight years. this is an eight-year-long campaign to decouple...
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they don't want to hear boehner capitulate. if you read a lot of the right wing sides, not the crazy once, they're already teeing up to say bain ser a failure, he gave into obama. they want to hear him talk the talk. while he still has the rejectionists in hand in the lame duck caucus and while he has that donor class that wants to hear this conservative rhetoric, he's still got to play the game. behind the jeans i think republicans understand they're going to lose that top rate fight. they're going to lose that and i wouldn't be surprised if they wound up putting the debt creeling into the deal at the end, but up until the moment they make the deal, he's got to talk the talk. >> if i was only interested in right wing money and money at the top, i would say that's all true and, therefore, the faster they make a deal the better because if they're going to raise the rate anyway, get it over with. >> it would be better for the republicans if they make a deal now. >> boehner can make a better deal now. the question is whether anyon
they don't want to hear boehner capitulate. if you read a lot of the right wing sides, not the crazy once, they're already teeing up to say bain ser a failure, he gave into obama. they want to hear him talk the talk. while he still has the rejectionists in hand in the lame duck caucus and while he has that donor class that wants to hear this conservative rhetoric, he's still got to play the game. behind the jeans i think republicans understand they're going to lose that top rate fight. they're...
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i was curious to see john boehner's tone and wasn't try gent. he wasn't saying there's a deal but he wasn't saying, you know, we're nowhere. like he had been saying before. >> when you assert the spth not serious, that is not, hey, we're working on something here. unless you can read in to that something different. >> if you follow the logic saying you're not sere youz because there aren't specific cuts then if there are then it holds that he is being serious then i guess you would think that in the next few days, five, seven, seven, eight days you might see specifics. i think what you are seeing is a pr battle where you say if it doesn't pass, who gets the blame? republicans are the ones people say they blame the most and republicans trying to push back on the message. >> they certainly are doing that but when you look at the optics of it, it's pr and what you say and where you say it matters. you have the backdrop with the president yesterday and the union workers in their own battle and face of middle america and middle class and speaker boeh
i was curious to see john boehner's tone and wasn't try gent. he wasn't saying there's a deal but he wasn't saying, you know, we're nowhere. like he had been saying before. >> when you assert the spth not serious, that is not, hey, we're working on something here. unless you can read in to that something different. >> if you follow the logic saying you're not sere youz because there aren't specific cuts then if there are then it holds that he is being serious then i guess you would...
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as early as thursday, boehner plans to offer two amendments. one would extend the bush-era tax cuts for people who make up to $250,000 a year. the other would extend the tax cuts for everyone who makes up to $1 million a year. >> plan b would protect american taxpayers who make a million dollars or less and have all of their current rates extended. >> boehner is basically offering to end the fiscal cliff talks for the holidays. he would take up the spending cuts and debt ceiling debate next year. joining me tonight editor at large for salon, joan walsh. and democratic strategist bob shrum with us tonight. great to have both of you with us. >> thanks, ed. >> joan, what is boehner trying to prove here with this strategy? that he is so concerned with small business? what is happening here. >> exactly. i mean, look. he knows plan b is doa, ed. it doesn't do anything. it doesn't solve any problems. you know, it protects people who make between 250 and 1 million who are still quite wealthy. it doesn't make a dent in the deficit. and it also doesn't s
as early as thursday, boehner plans to offer two amendments. one would extend the bush-era tax cuts for people who make up to $250,000 a year. the other would extend the tax cuts for everyone who makes up to $1 million a year. >> plan b would protect american taxpayers who make a million dollars or less and have all of their current rates extended. >> boehner is basically offering to end the fiscal cliff talks for the holidays. he would take up the spending cuts and debt ceiling...
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speaker boehner's approval rating is taking a beating. the top tax rates that is a core issue for republicans, even though we are hearing from more of them, a handful of members in both the house and senate talking about the likely hood that that will in fact happen. the highest earners will pay more. that would likely be the last piece of the puzzle in a negotiation. i'm hearing from people in both sides say expect this to keep going and a likelihood if a deal is achievable it will happen close to the deadline seems to be the thinking. they are telling everybody to be prepared to be here during the holidays. we are hearing that as well. there is sort of a resignation that it's going to be a long process. >> thank you, kelly. great le appreciate it. the national political reporter for the atlantic democratic strategist keith bicycle in. amy stoddard, associate editor for the hill paper. thank you all for joining us. let me start off with you. we are going to show our audience later the headlines or a couple of the headlines out there. if
speaker boehner's approval rating is taking a beating. the top tax rates that is a core issue for republicans, even though we are hearing from more of them, a handful of members in both the house and senate talking about the likely hood that that will in fact happen. the highest earners will pay more. that would likely be the last piece of the puzzle in a negotiation. i'm hearing from people in both sides say expect this to keep going and a likelihood if a deal is achievable it will happen...
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that said, how much is boehner helped by his proposal? his proposal seemed a little bit not quite even close to what boehner and the president were in july of 2011 when the grand b bargain talks fell apart but now you've got conservative criticism of what he did offers as a reminder how difficult it is to find 218 votes in the house. >>> well, what the president set to announce his secretary of state pick, some worry it may be stretched out now to early next week, senator john kerry desperately wants the job, has stayed very, very quiet. yesterday he exchanged good natured ribbing with senator john mccain at a news conference called for support of a u.n. treaty to support those with disabilities around the world. mccain started it off. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. [ laughter ] >> thank you very much, mr. president. [ laughter ] this is what happens when you get too loose. >> kerry and mccain are working together on the effort to persuade their senate colleagues to ratify the convention on the rights of persons with disabilities.
that said, how much is boehner helped by his proposal? his proposal seemed a little bit not quite even close to what boehner and the president were in july of 2011 when the grand b bargain talks fell apart but now you've got conservative criticism of what he did offers as a reminder how difficult it is to find 218 votes in the house. >>> well, what the president set to announce his secretary of state pick, some worry it may be stretched out now to early next week, senator john kerry...
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boehner is spinning his wheels. president obama could be pushing these guys all the way until the break. he reminded the country of the stakes today. there was a sense of urgency in the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on the republicans. >> today, i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress, write them an e-mail, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using the hash tag my 2 k,
boehner is spinning his wheels. president obama could be pushing these guys all the way until the break. he reminded the country of the stakes today. there was a sense of urgency in the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done...
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. >> here they are, and here is boehner and canton, the joy boys, and what they have to say in action, and this is easy stuff for the opposition. >> these job numbers are pathetic and the american people deserve better. i think that under the right leadership we can do better. >> it is clear that the policies we have seen are not working. i'm not an economist, but all i can say is that they would have taken our advice and worked with us, the economy would be better. >> well, governor, he is not crying there, and i have to tell you that boehner, this is something that is not putting tears in his eyes, but a spring in the step of romney, and i the news and i don't know how many hours, but bill clinton made the news and marching to your tune saying don't go after bain capital or the massachusetts experience of romney and play playing, and in other words, defend your own record and build your own record and don't go negative. are you sticking with that? this is bill clinton speaking for himself and he took an ax to the whole thing when he was throughout with harry weinstein the other nigh
. >> here they are, and here is boehner and canton, the joy boys, and what they have to say in action, and this is easy stuff for the opposition. >> these job numbers are pathetic and the american people deserve better. i think that under the right leadership we can do better. >> it is clear that the policies we have seen are not working. i'm not an economist, but all i can say is that they would have taken our advice and worked with us, the economy would be better. >>...
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let's talk about some of john boehner's plan, though. john boehner is not moving off of rates. he's stilling talking about loophole closures. do you believe you can accomplish what needs to be done on the revenue side and let's step plate democrats have to be more specific about us entitlement side. can you accomplish what you need on the revenue side just by flattening deductions and closing loop snoels. >> it depends on where you set the cap, but i think what's happening here is that the speaker has put on the table revenues, very specific number, $800 billion, a big number compared to where he was before. the president has said $1.6 trillion. well, i think the obvious agreement here is 1.2. split the difference. how you get that extra 400 is an issue. there are a lot of ways to do it. revenues is not a complicated part of this situation. what is really more complex is the issue of how you get the entitlements controlled because there's really been no substantive ideas put forward on that get to the numbers that you really need to get to. now, what interestingly enough what t
let's talk about some of john boehner's plan, though. john boehner is not moving off of rates. he's stilling talking about loophole closures. do you believe you can accomplish what needs to be done on the revenue side and let's step plate democrats have to be more specific about us entitlement side. can you accomplish what you need on the revenue side just by flattening deductions and closing loop snoels. >> it depends on where you set the cap, but i think what's happening here is that...
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john boehner liked it so much that he is ready to do it all over again. >>> plus, george w. bush finally comes out to support romney. but wait until you hear how he did it. >>> president obama swings by the view for a little pop culture quiz. >> what is the controversial sex book that is on millions of women's bedside tables. >> he doesn't know. >> i don't know that. >> good. >> okay, next. >> i'll ask michelle when i get home. >> you're watching politician nation on msnbc. [ female announcer ] want to spend less and retire with more? then don't get nickle and dimed by high cost investments and annoying account fees. at e-trade, our free easy-to-use online tools and experienced retirement specialists can help you build a personalized plan. and with our no annual fee iras and a wide range of low cost investments, you can execute the plan you want at a low cost. so meet with us, or go to etrade.com for a great retirement plan with low cost investments. ♪ for a great retirement plan with low cost investments. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we
john boehner liked it so much that he is ready to do it all over again. >>> plus, george w. bush finally comes out to support romney. but wait until you hear how he did it. >>> president obama swings by the view for a little pop culture quiz. >> what is the controversial sex book that is on millions of women's bedside tables. >> he doesn't know. >> i don't know that. >> good. >> okay, next. >> i'll ask michelle when i get home. >>...
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for boehner idea today. i kind of share it. but on the other hand, really good politicians solve problems. he hasn't been able to solve that problem at all. look, the one thing, michael, i'm very much with you and with the folks you've been talking to in the sentiment to you and the president express. but i do want to avoid the puck is on both houses when you say democrats and republicans. at least the president has really come a long way. he gave the republicans a higher income tax threshold. he gave the chain cpi. he cut the debt ceiling in the deal. he gave them another trillion dollars in spending cuts. i think he's absolutely in the right when he says i have tried to compromise and i've been met with complete intransigence. >> an aide tells nbc news senator reid believes republicans should return to negotiating table and work with democrats that avoids the fiscal cliff all together. republicans should support passing a bill that extends tax cuts for families up to $250,000 and delays the so-called seque
for boehner idea today. i kind of share it. but on the other hand, really good politicians solve problems. he hasn't been able to solve that problem at all. look, the one thing, michael, i'm very much with you and with the folks you've been talking to in the sentiment to you and the president express. but i do want to avoid the puck is on both houses when you say democrats and republicans. at least the president has really come a long way. he gave the republicans a higher income tax threshold....
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boehner or obama be on the winning team? we start with play by play on capitol hill. from nbc's luke russert who's washington wizards and my wizards, as well -- >> not doing very well. >> loving on the road. i know. >> crazier there, john boehner and carmelo anthony or -- >> i have nothing to defend myself with here. all right. luke, when's goiat's going on w vote tonight? >> the speaker's plan "b." it obviously is -- >> the morning after bill. >> yes. many jokes made around capitol hill about that. it's a bill to allow the tax rates for those earning a million dollars and below to stay put. it has no future at all in the senate and president obama said he would veto it. they seem to be close to a deal over the weekend. specifically monday and then downhill. the answer really is, two answers to give you. the white house says that president obama was informed by republicans that there is no way that john boehner could get the votes for a bill he the speaker -- a deal he put forward with the president last weekend. republicans
boehner or obama be on the winning team? we start with play by play on capitol hill. from nbc's luke russert who's washington wizards and my wizards, as well -- >> not doing very well. >> loving on the road. i know. >> crazier there, john boehner and carmelo anthony or -- >> i have nothing to defend myself with here. all right. luke, when's goiat's going on w vote tonight? >> the speaker's plan "b." it obviously is -- >> the morning after bill....
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only 19% trust john boehner. and in the wake of tonight's developments i would imagine those numbers would get a little worse for the speaker of the house. joining me tonight, former governor howard dean of vermont and cnbc political analyst. mr. dean, good to have you with us, governor. >> thanks, ed. >> give us in short order your commentary without question, what do you think has happened here this evening? >> well, the inside baseball of this is really a problem for the speaker. you can't -- this is something you can't do. you can't have your budget overridden, as governors know, and you can't have a major initiative like this go down when you think you have the votes and you don't. it would not entirely surprise me to see eric cantor or kevin mccarthy, who've been waiting in the wings, kind of gently stack the speaker in the back for a couple years, to make their move after the new session starts. the fiscal cliff, as you know, i believe the country would be better off if we went over the fiscal cliff. we wo
only 19% trust john boehner. and in the wake of tonight's developments i would imagine those numbers would get a little worse for the speaker of the house. joining me tonight, former governor howard dean of vermont and cnbc political analyst. mr. dean, good to have you with us, governor. >> thanks, ed. >> give us in short order your commentary without question, what do you think has happened here this evening? >> well, the inside baseball of this is really a problem for the...
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essentially, do you still trust speaker boehner in this process? >> there's no doubt that, you know, the speaker has challenges in his caucus, and i recognize that. i'm often reminded when i speak to the republican leadership that the majority of their caucus's membership comes from districts that i lost. and so sometimes they may not see an incentive in cooperating with me, in part because they are more concerned about challenges from a tea party candidate or challenges from the right and cooperating with me may make them vulnerable. you know, i recognize that. but goodness, if this past week has done anything, it should just give us some perspective. if there's one thing we should have after this week, it should be a perspective about what's important. and, you know, i would like to think that members of that caucus would say to themselves, you know what, we disagree with the president on a whole bunch of things, we wish the other guy had won, we're going to fight him on a whole range of issues over the next four years, we think his philosophy is
essentially, do you still trust speaker boehner in this process? >> there's no doubt that, you know, the speaker has challenges in his caucus, and i recognize that. i'm often reminded when i speak to the republican leadership that the majority of their caucus's membership comes from districts that i lost. and so sometimes they may not see an incentive in cooperating with me, in part because they are more concerned about challenges from a tea party candidate or challenges from the right...
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john boehner cannot negotiate now. if he didn't have the votes for his plan "b" that set that income threshold at $1 million, there's no way in the world he gets anywhere close to the amount of votes he's going to need for the latest negotiating position for the president, which was up to $250,000 to $400,000 for married couples filing jointly. that's where we are right now. the threshold question all along is would john boehner put something on the floor of the house of representatives that required him to pass by majority democratic support and lose the majority of his party -- the republican party. i'm here to tell you, michael, that simply doesn't happen. >> is it good or bad news for the president, mike, in so far as the boehner defeat, the embarrassment last night really leaves the president without someone with whom he can negotiate? in other words, who does the president turn to now? >> reporter: and that is a great question. as a matter of fact, we are told that harry reid, the democratic leader of the senate,
john boehner cannot negotiate now. if he didn't have the votes for his plan "b" that set that income threshold at $1 million, there's no way in the world he gets anywhere close to the amount of votes he's going to need for the latest negotiating position for the president, which was up to $250,000 to $400,000 for married couples filing jointly. that's where we are right now. the threshold question all along is would john boehner put something on the floor of the house of...
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thanks. >>> coming up, just in, republicans are trying to fire john boehner. he's leading their talks with the president but they want him out. we'll have that story. >>> and how about this, a gold medal winner heads to "politicsnation." gabby douglas is here to share her story. you won't want to miss this one. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp. it's kind of l
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it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of their committee seats for voting against party leadership in the past. but boehner finds himself in an increasingly weak position. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell refused to take a position on boehner's debt plan today. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house leadership for trying to move. the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> house democrats are cranking up the pressure. tim walsh of minnesota introduced a discharge petition on the middle class tax cuts in the house. if it gets 218 signatures, it would get a floor vote before the end of the month. >> this is an issue that we all agree on. >> democratic leader nancy pelosi announced a plan for the discharge petition last week. the petition keeps the focus on extending tax cuts for 98% of americans. i spoke to leader pelosi late this afternoon about the strategy and the latest de
it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of their committee seats for voting against party leadership in the past. but boehner finds himself in an increasingly weak position. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell refused to take a position on boehner's debt plan today. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house leadership for...
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i think that's what boehner is trying to do. god bless him for it because it's not going to be easy but that's exactly what they have to do in order to figure out how do they become a political party, not a sunsetting party, but a political party that has force, not just within the walls of d.c. but outside as well. >> i'm reminded 69 words of george carlin who said it's called the american dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. joy, maria teresa, thank you. the guys who gave us the go go '90s call for even greater tax hikes than the president. shouldn't we listen to them? stay with us. >> please, do something frightening between now and the midterm elections because if you do not, the republicans will have to do something truly terrifying like addressing the needs of blacks, women, and hispanics. um... uh... um... hm... umm... uh... oh ! the windows phone 8x by htc on verizon. it features easy to navigate live tiles that are simple to customize. just pin what matters most right to your homescreen. exclusively with d
i think that's what boehner is trying to do. god bless him for it because it's not going to be easy but that's exactly what they have to do in order to figure out how do they become a political party, not a sunsetting party, but a political party that has force, not just within the walls of d.c. but outside as well. >> i'm reminded 69 words of george carlin who said it's called the american dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. joy, maria teresa, thank you. the guys who gave...
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speaker boehner, introduce you to a little thing i like to call you to gopwot. i'll explain what that means ahead. >>> plus the world's biggest cat celebrity has done it again. we'll show you more in today's summer break. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. this is new york state. we built the first railway, the first trade route to the west, the greatest empires. then, some said, we lost our edge. well today, there's a new new york state. one that's working to attract businesses and create jobs. a place where innovation meets determination... and businesses lead the world. the new new york works for business. find out how it can work for yours at thenewny.com. mid grade dark roast forest fresh full tank brain freeze cake donettes rolling hot dogs bag of ice anti-freeze wash and dry diesel self-serve fix a flat jumper cables 5% cashback signup for 5% cashback at gas stations through september. it pays to discover. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. >>> folks, have you checked us out on
speaker boehner, introduce you to a little thing i like to call you to gopwot. i'll explain what that means ahead. >>> plus the world's biggest cat celebrity has done it again. we'll show you more in today's summer break. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. this is new york state. we built the first railway, the first trade route to the west, the greatest empires. then, some said, we lost our edge. well today, there's a new new york state. one that's working to attract...
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. >> i don't know how john boehner did this. but tonight, john boehner's plan b is being attacked by president obama and rush limbaugh. and in a last word exclusive, the basketball coach who used his post-game press conference to talk about something much more important than the game. mass murder in america. >> the fiscal cliff talks, are they stolen again? >> i hope the president will get serious soon. >> i have met them at least half way. >> john boehner's so-called plan b. >> what is the strategy for plan b? >> make sense of what just happened. >> they're thinking about voting for, raising taxes. >> except for household income above a million. >> but they will reject spending cuts. >> the president will have a decision to make. >> that defies logic. >> this is baffling. >> grover norquist has given his blessing, that defies logic. >> people across america thought we were behaving like adults. >> stay classy, gop. >> if this does nothing, it will give us perspective. >> it is announcing a task force on guns. >> violence that w
. >> i don't know how john boehner did this. but tonight, john boehner's plan b is being attacked by president obama and rush limbaugh. and in a last word exclusive, the basketball coach who used his post-game press conference to talk about something much more important than the game. mass murder in america. >> the fiscal cliff talks, are they stolen again? >> i hope the president will get serious soon. >> i have met them at least half way. >> john boehner's...
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boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the deal, but he does have to put it on the floor, and it will pass. >> michael steele, take it to robert gibbs. and it's great that some of these people can talk to each other, but they still have to go back to those who don't want to play ball, correct? >> that's exactly right. and that's the reality that we've lived wi
boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but...
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john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could not manage his own symbolic gesture. they skipped parts of the constitution. they skipped parts they did not like. and some parts they skipped because they were reading it out of a loose leaf binder and the pages stuck together. right then we should have known that was a bad sign. john boehner did not even succeed in getting all of his members sworn in when he took over as speaker. two new republican members of congress went to a reception and missed the swearing in. they apparently saw it happening on a tv screen that was playing at the reception, and they sort of tried to swear themselves in by raising their right hand to the television. but
john boehner is not good at his job. we've ventured this as a hypothesis very early on in his speakership, i mean right from the beginning. it seemed like there might be something amiss, right? on the first day as speaker, he tried to have republicans pull off the stunt where they would read the whole constitution from the floor of the house. but even on day one, john boehner could not manage his own symbolic gesture. they skipped parts of the constitution. they skipped parts they did not like....
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what does the president need to offer to speaker boehner so that speaker boehner can show his face back in the house and not be too humiliated. >> the way i see it should be about a 55% to 60% democratic solution. it will never be 50/50 because the republicans lost the election. the winner, the winning party, gets to call it. and so i'd say 60%. what the democrats have to win on, they have to get an increase in the tax rate of people making a lot of money. it has to go up beyond 35% to something at least 37%, maybe 38%, maybe not 39.6% but somewhere around 38%. get that in. get rid of some deductions and i think that's it. they might want to raise the cap on payments toward medicare when you're working years. something that would make the medicare prom more secure financially which would appeal to the progressives and people with big city and working class constituencies. >> what about the age for when you qualify for social security? >> well, i wouldn't touch that. that's too high. you don't do that over christmas rush. you know, you do that over a long period of time and you make a ve
what does the president need to offer to speaker boehner so that speaker boehner can show his face back in the house and not be too humiliated. >> the way i see it should be about a 55% to 60% democratic solution. it will never be 50/50 because the republicans lost the election. the winner, the winning party, gets to call it. and so i'd say 60%. what the democrats have to win on, they have to get an increase in the tax rate of people making a lot of money. it has to go up beyond 35% to...
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the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of agreement. >> let's put aside the right wing here. we know that speaker boehner purged some of those seen as not being team players within his own party and we'll discuss the fact he's taken a hit for that. beyond the right wing or whatever you have numbers. you have exit polling. you have pew research poll that shows where the american people stand. if all of the people are there to represent us, meaning the people who are watching right now and the panel included here, we are all americans, we pay taxes, then why isn't this work getting done? >> well, just look at speaker boehner's fiscal cliff p
the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. looking back at the 1980s, for example, when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker of the house, they didn't agree but they sit down and talk and negotiate and compromise and today's republican party so hijacked by the right wing they're incapable of...
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i think boehner set a great signal yesterday. i think the person who called boehner yesterday and said let's get back to work is a big deal. >> i want to ask you. do the american voters really get the attention of the gop now? do they send a clear message that misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic candidate es just dot fly. how do they get the party back on track? >> losing does a lot more parties, and spending time in the desert does a lot toward figuring out how to get to water. the republican party obviously has a lot of work to do, but i'm encouraged they will get the message, that we understand we've got to be a larger tent. we can't continue to just go after a shrinking -- trying to expand a shrinking demographic and recognize we need more tolerance, more diversity, and more policies and messages that address the broad fabric of middle america. so i think the message is loud and clear. i don't think there's any question about that. ultimately, it will be good for the party, and they'll get strong new leadership that will be --
i think boehner set a great signal yesterday. i think the person who called boehner yesterday and said let's get back to work is a big deal. >> i want to ask you. do the american voters really get the attention of the gop now? do they send a clear message that misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic candidate es just dot fly. how do they get the party back on track? >> losing does a lot more parties, and spending time in the desert does a lot toward figuring out how to get to water. the...
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john boehner says the you're getting the one, john boehner says you have about $800 billion, he is not including interest payments. we have talked about this a lot on the show, so much of the fiscal cliff is about who has leverage if they don't come to a deal. and so far, the president usually has because either all the tax cuts expire or a lot of republicans have said we'll just pass the senate bill, which allows for all the tax cuts over $250,000 to expire. that is the president's position. john boehner is trying to create a reality, a leverage point a little friendlier to him, by moving it up to a million and hoping it will split the democrats. it doesn't, at this point, appear to be working. >> sam stein, isn't plan b good for the white house? isn't the white house just kind of pretending they're not crazy about john boehner? especially the part where he says he will bring the senate bill to a vote in the house? >> well, yeah, it is good in one sense, that they will have a number of republicans voting for a tax hike. how many republicans they will get is another question entirely.
john boehner says the you're getting the one, john boehner says you have about $800 billion, he is not including interest payments. we have talked about this a lot on the show, so much of the fiscal cliff is about who has leverage if they don't come to a deal. and so far, the president usually has because either all the tax cuts expire or a lot of republicans have said we'll just pass the senate bill, which allows for all the tax cuts over $250,000 to expire. that is the president's position....
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boehner knows this. this is why boehner is now coming to the table saying, all right, we can't do the cliff thing, we'll get the political hit for it and we'll also be in a bad negotiating position. but he has to identify where the money's coming from. and it's got to be rates. i get a sense in washington that the democrats have drawn the line in the sand on rates. if you can't get rates, you can't get anything else. boehner's going to come out and identify a bunch of deductions. that's not going to be enough. you got to go the rates. once you do the rates, everything else might fall in place because do i think the white house will negotiate. >> i want to go over the stakes of all of this just for the average american family, if we do go over the cliff, about 90% of households would end up paying almost $3,500 more in taxes and one in five action pai -- taxpayers would have to pay the alternative minimum tax, which would mean an increase of $3,700 more of what you already know and those on unemployment i
boehner knows this. this is why boehner is now coming to the table saying, all right, we can't do the cliff thing, we'll get the political hit for it and we'll also be in a bad negotiating position. but he has to identify where the money's coming from. and it's got to be rates. i get a sense in washington that the democrats have drawn the line in the sand on rates. if you can't get rates, you can't get anything else. boehner's going to come out and identify a bunch of deductions. that's not...
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i think you heard john boehner say that already. we have had votes in the senate where we have gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's given and the vast majority of the americans agree with that. the question is, how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise? at the same time, you fix the real problem and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. so, you have to approach both sides of it. >> let me turn to senator schumer. i will ask you the same question. if the mandate is compromised what do democrats have to be prepared to accept as a painful outcome in order to achieve compromise? >> well, i agree with you, the mandate is compromise. that's why we have a divided house and senate. i think if the house stands for anything it is cut government spending, as tom coburn said, and i think we have to do more of it. we heard the mandate 2010, where it was a clear mandate you cut spending and we did, we cu
i think you heard john boehner say that already. we have had votes in the senate where we have gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's given and the vast majority of the americans agree with that. the question is, how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise? at the same time, you fix the real problem and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. so, you have to...
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the reason why boehner has trouble cutting is deal is not because boehner can't cut a deal. i think in five minutes' time he and obama would come up -- >> excuse me, excuse me, you're wrong. you're wrong. all that grover has to say, all he has to say is, we're in a particular fiscal crunch right now and we've got to make allowances for that. if he did that a lot would change. >> grover only counts because these tea party guys, the 50, 60, 70 in the house, they have a theological opposition to any -- >> let's go -- >> all they're worried about being primaried from the right -- >> i know -- let's talk about the caucus you used to work with. >> very well. >> aren't there a lot of people over there if grover came out and said these are particular times, we have to make a couple adjustments. >> members of congress should not have to negotiate with grover norquist. >> but i'm asking you an open question. would that have been inflauns? >> it could but it would -- for grover he's an activist. he's someone -- he has his ideals and if he compromises on that, that's harder for him. the
the reason why boehner has trouble cutting is deal is not because boehner can't cut a deal. i think in five minutes' time he and obama would come up -- >> excuse me, excuse me, you're wrong. you're wrong. all that grover has to say, all he has to say is, we're in a particular fiscal crunch right now and we've got to make allowances for that. if he did that a lot would change. >> grover only counts because these tea party guys, the 50, 60, 70 in the house, they have a theological...
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>> john boehner's counteroffer was pathetic. even the tea party members are saying that it was pathetic. this republican party in the house pet better show courage or it's going to be voted out of power two years from. >> the president is going to have to do something big to get this done. there's been four years course of he doesn't get along with the party, he doesn't make the kind of effort that you're talking about. i don't think there's going to be any doubt that they have to find some interhuman connection moment na says we are doing this. >> let's get started. joining me is bob casey who is moderating the hearing on the fiscal cliff next week. sir, i start with the comparison of the two plans so everyone can see this. the gop plan through closing loopholes and no deductions and rate hikes, as we pointed out as exposed under the democratic plan. the republican plan includes more entitlements through republican reform and then eligibility age being raised than the gop plan including changes of social security not addressed
>> john boehner's counteroffer was pathetic. even the tea party members are saying that it was pathetic. this republican party in the house pet better show courage or it's going to be voted out of power two years from. >> the president is going to have to do something big to get this done. there's been four years course of he doesn't get along with the party, he doesn't make the kind of effort that you're talking about. i don't think there's going to be any doubt that they have to...
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this was a bright spot in boehner's interview. he was asked if republicans will still pursue full repeat. >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear the president was reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be extending the time next year trying to repeal obama-care? >> there are certainly maybe parts of it we believe that need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> wait a minute. a short while later, boehner walked back his answer on twitter. obama care is the law of the land, but it's raising costs and hurting small businesses. our goal remains full repeat? it looks like he's scared of the tea partiers in the caucus. president obama was close to persuading him on a grand bargain before boehner buckled. i guess you could say this time around they don't need boehner. they hold not all the carts, but more cards, and the middle eastern people are clearly behind this president, they elected a more progress i have senate. senator patty murray, who led the democratic senatorial
this was a bright spot in boehner's interview. he was asked if republicans will still pursue full repeat. >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear the president was reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be extending the time next year trying to repeal obama-care? >> there are certainly maybe parts of it we believe that need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> wait a minute. a short while later, boehner...